Back in the day, the original inception of Intentional Insights was based on reader Q&A of spiritual experiences, shamanism, and animism. This question, this post, remains one of the top three read posts on my site. If you suffer with seizures, know that it is a spiritual experience that still requires medical management. If I can help you with the spiritual aspects of it, feel free to email me to set up a session.
Kelley, My daughter (BA), who is thirteen, recently began having seizures. They say she is not epileptic, that the seizures are pyschogenic. I can accept this diagnosis, but the triggers are always when she is stressed, after she’s been sick. We are currently in the hospital and the doctors make both of us feel as if we’re crazy. I just have this feeling that we are missing something. Am I right? Should I keep searching for a new diagnosis, or are the doctors in the hospital correct? Because it’s not a clean cut case, I feel as if she is quickly dismissed. Thanks, A.
Thanks for your note, A. Any health crisis doesn’t have to be physical or spiritual. It can be both, as well as emotional and psychological–all at once. In soul tending, seizures are seen as a facet of the soul moving in and out of the body–which is a natural occurrence. We all do it all the time, and are supposed to. We all experience shifts in availability of power throughout life. The question is when power diminishes as the result of trauma and doesn’t return fully on its own, how does its absence affect us on a daily basis? Such movement is in part how we elevate our consciousness and deepen our awareness of ourselves and how we situate into the world. When there’s some kind of conflict around that movement, or when going out feels better than coming in, the movement gets bumpy, and in extremes can result in what we consider a seizure. In soul tending lingo, this is a type of fragmentation called soul loss, which can have a great deal of nuance.
Generally speaking, soul loss may be more of a power leak, like when you get a cut on your arm. It’s not a vital loss, yet it needs to be tended. If it isn’t tended infection can set in, greater blood loss can occur. Soul loss can be episodic, as in power that’s lost when you hang out with a particular person. You don’t necessarily feel that power loss all the time, just after you’ve spent time with that person, then you recover. Soul loss can also be severe and abrupt, as when a significant component of power required to function at a fit earthly level has left the earthly awareness. This can manifest as minor dissociation, in which you leave the body temporarily. though is still very debilitating depending on the circumstances. Soul loss can be as severe as seizure or coma, in which power isn’t accessible for a drawn out period of time.
When power can’t return fully, a soul retrieval is required. Soul retrieval is a technique to bring the power back and heal as is needed, so that disruption is minimized or stopped. How that healing manifests is different for everyone. It may mean the seizures end, or that some new relationship to them is established.
When I interact with the aspect of BA who can inform me on the source of her seizures, I am met by a flaming representation of herself. The figure is a young girl, literally on fire–inflamed–from head to toe. She’s so angry she’s hopping and jumping; she can’t stand still. She’s yelling and screaming at the top of her voice.
Though she doesn’t quite have a context for it, BA realizes that she’s coming into the power of womanhood and finding her voice, as well as hitting against the brutal truth that culturally no one is listening. She’s begun to tap into the misogynistic currents in the world, and she’s learning that all women are on the same team, no matter how old they are, what they do, where they live, what color they are. In other words, she finally sees herself as on the way to Grown Up, as an individual who is part of a whole, and she’s feeling that as a female, she is still relegated to second rate citizen. She’s disgusted with the idea so much that her earthly consciousness can’t express the depth of anger or frustration she’s feeling. Those feelings are being carried by this soul aspect, in a safer, removed experience of herself, in another spiritual layer.
BA has also begun experiencing the political aspect of gender and bias firsthand in her peer group, and in general has become more sensitive to it at an Earth level. Thus far her ability to react to that personal and collective hurt has been to be both profoundly provoked to rail against it and subsequently to shutdown, all at once. These opposing reactions are triggered by conflict between what she feels to be true and sublime in her consciousness (acceptance of The Feminine), and what she sees going on in the world around her (patriarchy). She internalizes that distress, resulting in her soul truth and worldly observation disconnecting. This is the point at which she has a seizure. She feels the feminine wound and leaves her body, fleetingly. BA is extremely intuitive and does not have the emotional development to process the level of feelings she experiences when this happens, so she passes them to this flaming aspect, the facet of her soul where her anger has amassed.
When I speak with this aspect, she pretty much tells me to go screw myself until I express to her that I agree with her 100%, and that I’m not here to quell her anger, but to help shed some light on how to deal with it in a way that doesn’t hurt BA. She did not realize that her passionate anger was hurting BA. I explain to her that BA has a physical reaction to these fits of anger, and because of the seizures has come under scrutiny from doctors—another patriarchal system. The aspect doesn’t like that at all. I tell her there are better, more empowering ways to express anger, and that in order for BA to feel empowered amidst the things she sees and feels that are unfair to women, this aspect has to learn to turn anger into motivation to be part of the change in this realm.
The aspect goes up for healing, and she’s transformed into a lovely, calm young woman. Also, an enormous white egret comes back with her, whom I’m told is BA’s animal guide (at least for now). I talk further with the healed aspect, and she is fully in compliance with being a force of positive change for the feminine principle in Earth’s strata, and she deeply loves BA and is ready to help her process feelings and thoughts that come up. BA is vastly empathetic and she picks up on more hurt and sorrow in the world than many do, certainly more than her peers do. The egret suggests a necklace of clear quartz for her to wear to feel connected to All That Is, to help her feel connected with the wisdom that all souls are equal. He also suggests placing smoky quartz around or under her bed, to whisk away errant energies that she may pick up on during the day.
Until BA develops more pervasive coping skills, she needs to process the feelings stirred by the world and personal situation by setting aside time to be angry, regularly. Maybe it could be a family adventure, where everyone gets to yell and pillow fight for half an hour a week. Each person could even name what they’re angry about. And/or, get that girl in kick boxing class. If you feel she can handle that kind of exertion, she needs a physical outlet to help her connect feelings to body empowerment. Eventually something like tai chi, that soothes and focuses, could be excellent moving meditation for her. Right now so many hormones and feelings are churning that safe, trained expression of them is imperative. BA is having an “other” experience, because she’s very sensitive and in tune with things around her. Some reading about spiritual emergency may be useful for you both. If you haven’t opened dialogue with her around intuition and what it is, how to work with it, things she may have experienced but been afraid to mention during childhood… now is the perfect time. There are many intuitive children who learn early on not to talk about the unseen. BA has a lot to bring to the world with her level of awareness. Luckily she has an observant and wise mother like you to help her.
Be well, A!
Readers, bear in mind that this experience recounts only BA’s relationship to seizures. It isn’t indicative of how others relate to them. In order to understand that, engagement with the spiritual aspects of your personal experience has to happen. Feel free to email me to set up a session to explore what that relationship is, and how being more active in it may help you feel better.
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I had what I thought was a panic attack, and when I told my neurologist’s nurse, she said to go to a psychiatrist. The psychiatrist said he thinks it was a seizure, but he was not really sure. I have a referral with a different neurologist that specializes in seizures and psychiatry, but I am not sure when that will be.
This happened at my school ( I teach fourth grade) just before a field trip, so thank goodness we had not yet left the building, and I was able to escort the students out of the classroom once I realized that something was really wrong, without them being the wiser.
My experience began with confusion and a feeling that I forgot something (not tangible) really important. (similar surreal feeling of deja vu) Followed by more confusion, fear and panic. I am not exactly sure of the time frame ( at least 45 minutes). I was in extreme fear and did not know what was happening. I thought that everyone I loved was dead and that I was dying. I hyperventilated and had an aura (strange sensation of my immediate environment being on a completely different wavelength.) It was the scariest experience I have ever had.
I recently was forced to take ALEMBIC brand lamotrigine, instead of the CADISTA brand about two week prior to this incident. about a week into the ALEMBIC, i was unable to get more than 2 hours of sleep a night. I have been under some stress due to some recent trauma, but not from work, I love my job. The only thing that I had done differently, other than taking a different suppliers lamotrigine, was I danced for about three hours the night before ( i have done this hundreds of times in the past few years, with no consequence), just not in a month or so.
Anyone ever experience something similar? I had very odd terrorizing thoughts…looking forward to seeing specialist to find out more.
In addition, I have had myoclonic seizures on my left side, (lasting for months at a time) a few tonic clonic, absence seizures and partial complex seizures throughout the years. I had a double craniotomy in 1980 that culminated with an aluminum mesh plate (yikes!). Looking for answers…feeling alone. Thank you
Thanks for your comment Suzanne. I’m sorry you’ve been having such a hard time. I know it’s scary to have the experiences at all, and not feeling supported in them and not knowing what they are only adds to that. I approach out-of-the-ordinary physical experiences as simultaneous with spiritual ones. We function as a collective of layers, and everything in our lives affects every layer. Gaining an understanding in what’s shifting at a spiritual layer may help soothe not just physical and emotional unrest, but also what’s going on at spiritual level, too. We have shifts of soul all the time, sort of like the way we shed and grow new cells, gain new synapses, etc. It’s definitely worth investigating all levels of what’s happening. If I can help with that, let me know.
My best to you!
I get seizure like activity every month around my period. This all makes so much sense in correlation with your article! I am also processing recent trauma from being sexually assaulted. Yep, again explains a lot. When I ask for guidance during these times, the word “control” always pops putting me and I can tell trying to over control my seizure activity increases my anxiety and makes the experience 10x worse.
Thanks for commenting, Susie. I hope you find relief, soon!
Wow! Thank you for the share. I am a person of Trans experience and have been struggling with dissociation, especially after top surgery. I recently had a seizure not too long after a hysterectomy and it was quite scary. $2,500 and 6 hrs later, nothing was found as a reason why it happened. I knew it was a spiritual thing, but had no idea what it could have pertained too until now. Thank you for this!
Indeed, it’s all so complex when we have physical dynamics layered with spiritual ones. It’s too easy for the spiritual ones to get lost. I’m glad you have something to go on, now. If I can help further, drop me a line!
I developed seizures as well at the age of 14, i believe in result of a traumatic event i encountered 2 years earlier. I only get them once a year mostly, but I feel like my body fights this throughout the year until there is a limit in the time of year where my body just gives in. I am now 24 years old. I have had this for 10 years and I have never been diagnosed or medicated. This year I had 4 seizures in a week then developed a fever for 3 days. Feel like I just went through a very intense mind and body spiritual ascension and I feel so grateful for it. I believe I might need a soul retrieval after all this time. This article literally helped me out learn more about myself, thank you so much.
Thanks for stopping by Estefania, and for your kind words!
Interesting reading, will have to come back to this and have a deeper read. Experienced a seizure earlier today…haven’t had one since the very severe one I had two years ago, which was caused by a tumour. I’ve recently been trying to manifest my divine partner and have been experiencing a lot of anguish over falling for someone that doesn’t seem to be that interested anymore after an intense initial connection and …reading this makes me feel that it’s all connected… I have a lot of trouble finding and hearing my intuition and have felt very conflicted on what to do will continue to meditate on it and see what I can decipher 🙏💕
Thanks for commenting! I hope you are feeling better, and that you get things in balance. I know it can be so hard to do between not knowing an exact physical source, and also managing the spiritual aspects of things.
My son seen a black shadow and him and his friend couldn’t move then my son had a seizures but he dont remember the seizures. He is 28 never had one before
Thanks for stopping by, Turenia!
My oldest daughter at 16 just had 3 seizures. ahe had them in her sleep. a couple years ago I swear she had one on a hike. the doctors said it wasnt one. this article makes so much sense. how do we know if they need a soul retrival afterwards or some type of healing?
Thanks for your note, Jen. I encourage people to do Soul work anytime they’ve had an experience that alters their Consciousness, such as surgery, seizure, near death, trauma. Soul work after that kind of distress allows us to deal with anything about the traumatic experience that was distressful, anything at a soul level that may have been revealed, and what the new normal looks like after such an experience.
feel free to email me if I can answer any further questions, Jen.
I forgot to mention that I had a spiritual awakening a few years after I stopped having seizures and then another year later a Kundalini Rising. I have a friend that also had seizures and experienced a Kundalini Rising as well.
If I could be of help… I had seizures for 14 years with no help. One day I saw a chart in the dentist office of teeth and all the blood vessels to the brain. I had two root canals done when I was 17… they hadn’t fully been eradicated of infection and were capped. I had the teeth removed and the seizures stopped. No one told me to have the teeth removed, I just saw a correlation with my health and the timeline.
This is really interesting to me. I have been searching for a reason for my seizures; they aren’t typical. I have “spells” where I can’t understand language, I forget people’s names, the radio makes no sense, and I can’t understand what is written. The doctors don’t have a diagnosis for me and none of the anti-seizure medication is effective. How do I find out what’s going on spiritually? I know that I am very intuitive, I have synchronistic events daily.
Nicole
Nicole, mine seem very similar to yours. I can’t form words, everything in my head is jumbled and foreign.
Thanks for commenting, Jenn!
I’m having seizures and have no idea why. The doctor’s have run every test they could think of, and they found nothing. They prescribed anti-convulsants, which I haven’t taken yet. I just feel so confused and wished I could figure this out. When I searched my symptoms I keep getting ‘shamanism’. I don’t know what to do, and I just want the seizures to stop. I apparently look ‘possesed’ and turn all the way to my left without moving my feet but I black out so I don’t know it’s happening. I do get ‘deja vu’ beforehand.
I hope you can find the approach for dealing with seizures that works for you, Angie.
It may be that if you work with someone in a shamanic capacity, s/he can learn more about the parts of your soul that keep fluctuating in and out, and learn what can bring that under control.
Thanks for commenting.
Each time I have had a seizure it was during a period in my life where I experienced exactly what you said in the beginning of the article…I felt a deepening into my true Self, my Higher Self, a shift of consciousness so profound literally leaving me in a permanent shift where the energy around me is being absorbed differently, in a very good way. They started around the time when my spiritual path became the most prominent aspect of my life, around 18 years old. I am now 22. I thought I had them under control (I refuse any types of chemical pharmaceuticals for personal reasons but absolutely no judgment for those who use them) through diet and other life style changes but I had one this week (it has been over a year since my last) while nursing my 2 month old daughter. I came-to and she was completely fine on the bed for well over an hour I had been out, laying in a pillow of my blood from biting my tongue. I did something completely out of the norm of everyday and went to my room that day to nurse her while laying down watching a Beyoncé documentary LOL, so random. If I hadn’t responded to my intuition I could have been walking around with her or out on a walk with her and the dog…but the timing in my life when I have had seizures have been times where I notice my inner growth quickened at a much faster rate than normal and think it was too much for my brain to handle at once electrically, transitioning to a higher level so rapidly. Doctors could never tell me why.. the curse of the Western man relies so heavily on the rational mind and but there is a knowing within me this condition goes beyond anything a machine could interpret.
Thank you so much for this site and those that have shared their stories.
Thanks for commenting, Marissa. There is so much we don’t understand about how biochemicals connect the soul and physical experience. I’m glad you are doing what you need to take care of you, and continuing to search for your own answers. Feel free to buzz me, anytime!
I first developed epilepsy 12 years ago, at age 14. Doctors have diagnosed, and repeatedly diagnosed my condition. I was first led to believe that my condition was benign, and in the words of my neurologist; “once you find the right anticonvulsant drug, you will never have a seizure again”. I believed this for eight years until I experienced a liver failure from the anticonvulsants and was forced to take a more natural approach to the management of my seizures.
Seizures have taught me more than any other teacher or form of education in my life. Seizures are a way for my spirit self to send my earth body a message. A message about boundaries, physically, emotionally, and psychologically. Just as a young boy must stick his hand directly in the fire to truly learn what it means to get burned, I must face my seizures directly to truly learn the message that my soul is trying to send me. For too long, seizures were a source of separation, anger, judgment, and severe disappointment. I’m learning that all I want in life is to be ACCEPTED. I am also learning that before I can hope or expect anyone else to be accepting of me, I must first have a genuine acceptance of my self. When I have seizures, admittedly, I go through an initial period of non acceptance, albeit, the days following are filled with revelation, wisdom and most importantly, acceptance of my self. This shift in perspective is what I am truly grateful for. This shift has been the biggest source of change in my soul. Sure, others don’t understand me (emphasis on my genetic family), but this is only natural and necessary. Epilepsy is a gift that no one can possibly understand except yourself. And you can’t begin to understand this intergalactic range of emotions until you genuinely accept yourself for who you are, and truly believe that every human soul is equal, and they are all playing their own part exactly as they should. Cosmic conciousness is needed if you intend to heal yourself, others and society. Be grateful for what you have!
I have similar experience to yours. I had epilepsy 13 years ago and took drugs for 8 years since. Then I started with reiki and meditation and I stopped taking the medication. Since I started living without drugs I had minimal seizures. It can’t be even called a seizure. Within the last 2 years, as I deepened the connection with my soul, the seizures were bigger from time to time (1-2 a month). As you say, EVERYTIME I HAD THE SEIZURE MY SOUL WAS TEACHING ME. I tell you why. When I have problems that I don’t solve, I hear a voice in my head telling me what to do. If my consciousness doesn’t listen to that (means that ego is trying to be superior to your soul) then I have a seizure. UNTIL I DO WHAT THE VOICE TELLS ME TO DO I HAVE SEIZURES. Then when I do what I hear in my head, during the seizure the voice is stronger, the seizures stop immediately and don’t occur until I do wrong again. I understand that if a doctor reads a message like that then they would say what a nonsense but until you experience it by yourself don’t tell anything. I tell you EVERYTIME (not just once or twice in my life, it has been at least 10× in 2 years)my wiser subconscious spoke to me and I ignored it I had a seizure. Experience is more than simple study of physical body. I wish you all wisdom enough to listen to your soul. Live in peace
Petra, I’m so glad you’ve found relief! That’s wonderful! And go you for the perseverance to do what you need to do for yourself!
That’s a great outlook and one that I have had to take too with all the grand mal seizures I’ve been having… I had to look for positiveness even tho it felt so negative at times… thanks for sharing. Have your seizures stopped now?
i am 23 years old and have seizures as well… I am also a shaman my grandpa was one as well before. He taught me everything i know. i notice that when i do have seizures i do feel different and experience something not always know what, but i am still learning about this it only started two years ago that we noticed the doctor says. So this kinda helps …